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Poster: Reade Date: Sep 25, 2010 8:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: The Other Ones

A recent thread around this particular post-Jerry aggregation reminded me of a question I've long had: Did Vince decline an invitation to be involved or was he not invited in the first place?

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 25, 2010 9:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Other Ones

Vince became very depressed following a diagnosis of cancer and emphysema shortly before the final Grateful Dead tour, which was exacerbated by the loss of Jerry Garcia months later. Without any publicity about his illness, he decided to do the summer 1995 Grateful Dead tour, and wait to have surgery after it ended. Shortly after the tour was over, Jerry Garcia died. Welnick joined Bob Weir's new group Ratdog as the keyboard player, touring with them around the USA. He attempted suicide about six months after Garcia's death on the Rat Dog tour bus on the drive to Monterey, CA. Following intense therapy, successful treatment of his cancer, and management of the early-stages of his lung disease, he hoped to get back in the good graces of Grateful Dead's fellow surviving members, but collectively he was never able to do so. Subsequently, he became involved in solo efforts, formed and played in the band Missing Man Formation, which released a critically-acclaimed single album on Grateful Dead Records which included a touching tribute to Jerry Garcia, "Golden Days." He was a key member of the second ever Phil Lesh and Friends show in March 1998, and toured the USA with the Mickey Hart Band later that year, which he hoped would help open the door for him to perform again with the entire surviving Grateful Dead members.

In 2002 Bob Weir, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann and Phil Lesh regrouped under the name The Other Ones. Their reuniting for a concert billed as the "Grateful Dead Family Reunion" with the "Surviving Members of Grateful Dead" without Welnick deeply troubled him, according to musician and publisher, Mike Lawson, his close friend who also oversees Welnick's website. As a "surviving member of Grateful Dead" himself, Vince couldn't personally come to terms with how he could be completely left out of a "family reunion" and took this apparent shunning very hard. He worked hard to try to move on musically, and continued to work on personal music projects, toured with various backup jam-bands around the country, while writing and recording both solo in his home studio and with friends on a variety of projects. He completed several tracks with a group called Mood Food, including a reggae arrangement of "To Love Somebody" by the Bee Gees. He left behind hundreds of hours of unreleased materials, both personal and professional recordings.

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Poster: Jobygoob Date: Sep 27, 2010 8:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Other Ones

I knew all this already but still got choked up reading and thinking about it. Seems so cold to freeze him out because of personal and mental health issues. Of course we can't know everything that was going on at the time. But after learning how Pig Pen was shunned near the end of his life as well, leads me to believe that perhaps "the Other Ones" aren't always the nicest, kindest people in the world.